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Crypto-History, Instalment 1: Introduction

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The Hidden Threads of Crypto-History

A Multi-Part Exploration into Alternative Theories of the Human Experience

Instalment 1: Introduction

In recent years, literally dozens of scientists, historians, academics and authors have put forward theories which – if accepted as fact – pose insurmountable challenges to the dogma that has been accepted as conventional history. Some, like discoveries by archaeologist Tom Dillehay that suggest a breaching of the Clovis Barrier, and the probable need to abandon the Bering Bridge model for settlement of the New World are, while controversial, at least generally palatable enough to the academic community that rational discussion is allowed.

Others theories, however, like those put forward by Graham Hancock, are more vigorously opposed. Among other conclusions, Hancock suggests that an advanced civilization existed before recorded history began. Despite often savage attacks, many of which are not limited to the evidence, but instead focus on the so-called lack of crediblity of the writers, Hancock and his peers begin to form a convincing tapestry. Popular authors like Kevin Knight and Robert Lomas, Laurence Gardner, Richard Leigh and MIchael Baigent, Colin Wilson and Adrian Gilbert, to name just a few, are among those whose re-imagining of history is beginning to serve at least some of their readers as a new architecture for understanding the human journey.

The multidisciplinary approach they advocate and their startling conlusions seem to become even more valid when taken in context with work done by earlier pioneers in the field of what I'll call 'crypto-history'. These visionaries, mavericks like Charles Hapgood (Maps of the Ancient Sea-Kings and Immanuel Velikovsky (Ages in Chaos, Worlds in Collision) inarguably inspired today's current crop of what one commentator has called 're-historians'. Indeed, without Velikovsky and Hapgood, it's possible that -- for good or for ill -- we may not have had a Da Vinci Code.

How can this be? What connection could possibly unite two such seemingly unrelated frameworks? In one, the central theorem is that mankind had -- prior to recorded history -- advanced to a level of sophistication perhaps equalling our own; in the other, the founding figure of Christianity was also the founder of a kingly dynasty whose descendants are today active in a mysterious cabal pulling strings behind the great powers of Europe and elsewhere. Impossible to reconcile, at first glance.

But maybe not. It is possible that in the corpus of materials published by the authors named in the preceding paragraphs, there exist hidden threads that form a strand of continuity; a consistent and common stream of underground knowledge, here and there breaking to the surface.

The series of articles being introduced today is not an attempt to prove any of these theories. Rather, its intent is to allow the reader a basis for envisioning an overall timetable into which these speculative theories can fit. When we first created the Newsvine group Hall of Mirrors, we alluded to the possibility of creating a worldview in which all (or at least the majority of) the many existing conspiracy theories and alternative histories could find a common home. That is the intent of this series, and the source of its greatest challenge.

Does a thread of consistency emerge? You, the reader, must judge for yourself.

Coming Soon: The Hidden Threads of Crypto-History, Instalment 2: in the Beginning...

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I offer this comment as fair warning to those of you who might be interested enough to click onto this article and read further. I have enough material to turn this series into possibly the longest continuing framework of articles that Newsvine has ever seen, and am likely to do so with the smallest bit of provocation.

So, caveat encourager.

(Please, please don't throw me into that briar patch!)

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  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:44 AM EDT
{"commentId":1395121,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
I have enough material to turn this series into possibly the longest continuing framework of articles that Newsvine has ever seen, and am likely to do so with the smallest bit of provocation.

Consider yourself provoked :P

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  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:57 PM EST
{"commentId":1397940,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

Heh. Thanks for the provocation, Brad. I've been really seriously thinking that it's time for me to bash out instalment 7 any day now, as soon as I get four or five hours and a chance to collect my thoughts...

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#1.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:30 PM EST
{"commentId":6174496,"authorDomain":"pges01"}

Syn: Impossible; you'll never be able to do it!

(negative reinforcement)...

Just Do it!

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  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT
{"commentId":10113401,"authorDomain":"barkinhound"}

Synthesis: {AKA: Brer Rabbit?)

I'm right there in the Briar Patch witchoo. Keep on writing. I am getting to all of this late and am looking forward to reading through them all.

Sometime when I am not preparing for getting prone I'll have to relate a little about a symposium I used to attend way back in the day. The 70's I do believe. Anyhow, it was called "Pre-Columbus Cultural Transfusion in the Americas" and was quite a hoot. This was back in the day when there was still academic resistance to any major foreign landings prior to Columbus. Much fun.

Anyhow, thanks for these articles. Fascinating stuff.

best atcha

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#1.4 - Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:33 AM EDT
{"commentId":10127761,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}
Keep on writing.

Heh, well the thing is that I can't very well do anything else. When something it has to come out....well, it it just has to come out.

"Pre-Columbus Cultural Transfusion in the Americas" and was quite a hoot.

I'll bet. Sounds like it would be right up my alley, alright.

Remind me to remind you to tell me all about it!

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    #1.5 - Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT
    {"commentId":10133577,"authorDomain":"hugo-gnzlz"}

    I will continue to read your series it is interesting. Can't wait to read the rest.

    The problem I have with certain suggestion of how, when and where civilization began, or if in fact there was an advanced civilization pre-history is that the evidence leaves to much room for not only debate but also conjecture. Sure most of early history is full of holes and suppositions but many minds have agreed. With that said it is also interesting when someone takes a stand on what he thinks s/he has found, who knows, history has been re-written before!.

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    #1.6 - Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:18 AM EDT
    {"commentId":10134309,"authorDomain":"blessed-isles"}

    Many minds have agreed... but many have not. And truth isn't always determined by the number of votes it gets. There are too many anomalies, too many new discoveries that raise doubts, too many questions left unanswered. In the past, it was said that history was written by the conquerors, but many new investigative tools have been devised, including DNA and linguistic analysis, which overturn what was once accepted as fact. The Indo-European invasion theory and the Kurgan theory of the settlement of Europe by conquest were both once agreed to be correct by the majority. The new multi-disciplinary approach has exposed both as unsupportable by the evidence. History itself did not begin with the written word, only the recording of it did. Oral traditions, once discounted as only myth and legend, are now included in those disciplines being used to recover the past because the evidence supports them. History is not only being rewritten, it is being discovered.

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    • 1 vote
    #1.7 - Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:23 AM EDT
    {"commentId":10139687,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    As usual, Briwnys has put it masterfully. I would only add a couple of thoughts.

    the evidence leaves to much room for not only debate but also conjecture.

    Right. And this is as good a place for conjecture as any, methinks.

    many minds have agreed.

    Born rebel, I suppose. But any time 'many minds agree' those are exactly the places I first look for evidence of collusion, disinformation, distortion and outright lies - especially where there are political or other interests at work. The whole reason I refer to this as Crypto-History is that it is often history that is not just misunderstood, but intentionally hidden or obscured by interests whose continued power is best served by documenting something other than the truth.

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    • 1 vote
    #1.8 - Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:57 PM EDT
    {"commentId":10141165,"authorDomain":"hugo-gnzlz"}

    Even todays history is recorded with some bias or lies, example all students know about our presidents is what is stated in textbook, but if you do more research you find that many of the "truths" in textbooks are a stretch and many times omit the bad habits of said presidents.

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    #1.9 - Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:29 PM EDT
    {"commentId":10141198,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Exactly.

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    • 1 vote
    #1.10 - Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:32 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":591054,"authorDomain":"scientificblog"}

    Heck yeah. I am hooked already! I don't know anything about this alternate history stuff but it sounds fun.

    Are there any installments where some us beam down to a planet and it's an Earth where Nazis won WW2 and I get to wear a cool black uniform yet not have that nasty Jew-gassing business on my conscience? I can pull that off because the "which Star Trek character are you?" test says I am totally Kirk.

    I know Newsvine is mostly Picards. This explains why I am not more popular.

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    • 8 votes
    Reply#2 - Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:45 AM EDT
    {"commentId":591087,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Right on, Cash. Welcome aboard.

    Believe it or not, there will early on be an instalment where someone beams down to earth, at least. I believe they'll be called Annunaki, though. I'm with you on the uniforms, BTW. A friend of mine who's an aficionado says the SS had their uniforms designed by Hugo Boss (don't know if that's true or not, but...)

    I'm going to try to get instalment 2 out there tonight, and instalment 3 should be hot on its heels!

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    • 5 votes
    #2.1 - Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:17 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1206628,"authorDomain":"electricblanket"}

    Oh damn, I'm Deanna Troi, nearly a 'red-shirt.'

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    • 6 votes
    #2.2 - Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:54 PM EST
    {"commentId":2199626,"authorDomain":"MightyMait"}
    Heck yeah. I am hooked already!

    Me too!

    Down the rabbit hole I go...

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    • 3 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:48 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2209081,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Woo hoo!

    Welcome, Mighty Mait!

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    #2.4 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":591090,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Oh, and I took the test, and it said that I'm security guard no. 3. Should I be concerned?

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    • 7 votes
    Reply#3 - Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:19 AM EDT
    {"commentId":593697,"authorDomain":"ririaroo"}

    At least you weren't a red shirt (or unimportant character). I'm doomed for death.

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    • 7 votes
    #3.1 - Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:51 AM EDT
    {"commentId":595345,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Riri, I have a sneaking hunch that they amount to the same thing.
    : {

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    • 4 votes
    #3.2 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:04 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":599785,"authorDomain":"rochester92"}

    This article was posted today on Red Ice Creations.

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#4 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:21 PM EDT
    {"commentId":599920,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    That's so cool, Rochester92.

    I like the white on black font at Red Ice...but it's a bit hard to read much of it, isn't it.

    LOL...s'okay for this article, though...they can just link thru to the 'Vine!

    Thanks!

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    • 4 votes
    #4.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:24 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1341494,"authorDomain":"inghar2004"}

    I love the concept. I may have a few conspiracies of my own to add to your story:-)

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    • 5 votes
    Reply#5 - Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:40 AM EST
    {"commentId":1342930,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Hey, that would be awesome. Many hands make light work (or is that idle hands are the devil's plaything?) Anyway...

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    • 4 votes
    #5.1 - Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:58 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1391889,"authorDomain":"izakiza"}

    As someone deeply interested in the above topics (currently reading Sitchin's "The 12th Planet") I graciously ask for MORE MORE MORE PLEASE! ;)

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#6 - Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:16 AM EST
    {"commentId":1394413,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    I'll do my best! (did you get thru the other six instalments yet?)

    ; )

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    • 3 votes
    #6.1 - Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:12 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1736813,"authorDomain":"populardelusion"}

    I am just starting to read the series and so far it looks real good and touches on some important things. Example I know there are ancient maps that show America and even the poles in detail you could only get from above. Totally impossible but they are there and have been carbon dated and everything else that came along later. Graham Hancock has some views and material that needs to be considered a bit more. There is something to a lot of it. I have one problem and this pain in the ass has set back the whole crypto everything back in a major way. This guy is a hell of a persuasive writer that wrote on physics and anthropology. You show Velikovsky to a physicist or anyone who ever took a astronomy lesson and they say. The anthropology/archeology is interesting but he has no clue at all what he is talking about in the planet area.It works the other way around too. That's part of the problem. The bouncing planet influencing history by bouncing around like a pin ball has much more to do with trying to match up Biblical stories to a possible reason assuming it's all literal. As soon as that name is mentioned many that would other wise listen walk away. If he had never lived we would be in much better shape! All that said you have something. And there are very real problems you are on track to find but loose that idiot Velikovsky! I can buy into things on Mars a whole lot easier then that guys "stuff"

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#7 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:41 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1737716,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}
    As soon as that name is mentioned many that would other wise listen walk away.

    Popular D, I hear what you're saying. I'm more inclined than most to at least consider what Velikovsky has to say as a whole than most in the academic community are, though.

    Whether he's right about pole shifts or not, or cosmic collisions or not, in some ways the mechanism for catastrophic change is immaterial. At the end of the day, the major point to me is that we need to abandom the gradualist approach for something closer to catastrophism...and the minute you open that door, it becomes much more possible that there could have been earlier peaks in civilized behaviour among proto-human primates.

    In my mind, the mechanism could have been catastrophic melting at the end of the ice age, comet or asteroid strike or even supervolcano eruption. But I've become quite convinced that major catastrophic events that could have the potential to put an end to a civilization happen with more regularity than we previously thought.

    This has tremendous implications both for the way we think about our race's past, and also for our future.

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    • 4 votes
    #7.1 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:32 PM EDT
    {"commentId":6174646,"authorDomain":"pges01"}
    As soon as that name is mentioned many that would other wise listen walk away

    Sometimes the dis-informationist poses as the unveil-er of truths and conspiracies to do precisely as you mentioned: get people who would listen to walk away!

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    • 2 votes
    #7.2 - Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:51 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2947554,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

    okay, I am a Kirk.
    Is that normal considering

    I am female?

    Synth, just about to catch up. Thanks for doing all of this research!

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    • 4 votes
    Reply#8 - Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:11 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2948127,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    In your case, I would have to say it's pretty normal.

    Besides, Janeway would have probably gotten a similar profile....

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    • 2 votes
    #8.1 - Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:21 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2948286,"authorDomain":"jeremyemalheim"}

    Wow, if you are Kirk, does the mean I can be the alien you "beam up to investigate"? :-)

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    • 3 votes
    #8.2 - Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:51 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2960040,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Jeremy,

    Down boy!

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    • 2 votes
    #8.3 - Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
    {"commentId":6174682,"authorDomain":"pges01"}
    okay, I am a Kirk.

    then I am a "saucy martian"

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    • 1 vote
    #8.4 - Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:53 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3308961,"authorDomain":"Ar0x4"}

    I hear you all...and conclude I must be Enki, the son of Anu--from Nibiru.  My brother Enlil and half-Sister Ninhursag do not always understand me, especially since I fooled them and helped [the Anunnaki/Nefilim-(Noah)] save the "seeds" of Earthlings.  Though it takes me 1800 EarthYears to go back round our shared OuterDarkStar and another 1800 to return to the stratosphere of Gaia! 

    I last left your cloud-engulfed planet c.200 BC, so don't expect me back until, (the end of our standard 'Year', compared to your 365-days), AD3400!  One can get positively dizzy imagining all the 'changes' I shall witness upon my eventual return to your world... .  I suppose you must also expect I am not much overwhelmed by some of your group's fascination with the: 2012 syndrome-thingee.  The Nibiru-Return[s] are in 3600 yr. increments--not 2212 increments.  But we all have our own calculations and informed reasons for holding our particular opinions on the information/facts presented.  I respect all open-minded and well-read ideas.  Please keep sharing and stay in touch.

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#9 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3310016,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    PerS8, Sitchin's read of this is a very interesting one, and I will certainly be taking it into account as the series progresses.

    But I must tell you that I am researching each step along the way with a degree of rigour, and I have made no conclusions yet.

    If I find as I go that Sitchin's theories are solid, that will certainly influence the outcome of the series. But I don't know how it's going to turn out yet, and I suspect there are other explanations for things than the ones that he has put forward.

    I'm interested in avoiding dogma as much as possible, and that means New Age dogma as much as any other....

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    • 1 vote
    #9.1 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3311157,"authorDomain":"blessed-isles"}

    I concur, Syn. I have my own reasons for doubting Sitchin's interpretation entirely though I do think at least part of what he proposes has some merit.  For reasons stated elsewhere, the whole notion of Planet X/Nibiru and the viability of intelligent life so far removed from the solar primary is questionable. I think we should look closer to home for his "aliens".

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#10 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3436482,"authorDomain":"Ar0x4"}

    Hi 'Syn', 'Bri', 'Iza' and 'Pop' among other commenters;  it goes without overstating the fact, none of us have TheAbsoluteAnswer to any of these thoughtfully held high minded questions and beliefs.   My opinionson Mr. Sitchin's and other such author's writings; [very much researched for18 or more years] are just as valid as any out there; just as everyone else's questions and opinions are, of course. 

    Any of us here are free to hold onto any of our (well thought-out) statements--and feelingsabout 'Nibiru', '2012', 'The Rapture', 'Heaven and Hell', and/or 'Religion' in general, and be no closer nor farther than we were when we started these open-minded social discussions.  (Except as we are persuaded by others over time.)  Each of us have valid counter-researched opinions, and I respect you all.  

    I sincerely believe-in by now, certain specific chosen ideas/ideals (among the many) I have read, researched, and thoughtfully considered over a long period of time.  I expect most folks I speak with, and whose articles and comments I've read, feel quite the same.  None of us being [Gods/gods] ourselves, can expect to stamp "right" or "wrong" on the forehead of a pure Disciple then push them out into this highly complicated world as our All-Knowing, chosen Being of the [New] Age(s).  This stated, I appreciate that we are all intelligently tolerant of each other's deeply held understandings.  This encourages me to continue writing my modest material with an open mind, and honest intent.  There are few Blogs at which this can happen. Sincere thanks to Newsvine, and you all. 

    ps:  I am mindful that I have made many errors in judgement, style and procedure since discovering Newsvine, and sincerely appreciate your tolerance of this fact. 

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    Reply#11 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3452313,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    none of us have TheAbsoluteAnswer to any of these thoughtfully held high minded questions and beliefs

    You're right, PerS8. And if we did, it would be a lot less interesting, IMHO.

    Any of us here are free to hold onto any of our (well thought-out) statements--and feelingsabout 'Nibiru', '2012', 'The Rapture', 'Heaven and Hell', and/or 'Religion' in general, and be no closer nor farther than we were when we started these open-minded social discussions.

    This is absolutely true for me, too. It was when I found myself starting to come to some conclusions based on my readings that I decided I needed to form an opinion based on as much research, backed by solid methodology, as possible. That was what caused me to start writing this series in the first place. To go through a logical sequence of events, form hypotheses, and then test those hypotheses against as much data as I could find. That way, if I ended up with some outlandish conclusion at the end, at least I'd feel like I did my homework on the way to getting there.

    I also don't want you to think I'm dissing Sitchin's theory. It expanded my mind greatly when I first read it. It's just that I haven't yet tested it against all of the tests I want to before I make a conclusion.

    This encourages me to continue writing my modest material

    As it does for us all, PerS8. As it does for us all. It's the atmosphere of mutual respect on this column and threads like it that make me impatient to see a similar state of understanding prevail on the political threads, but alas, my brief sojourn there makes me suspect that such an outcome is highly unlikely any time soon.

    I am mindful that I have made many errors in judgement, style and procedure

    And once again, you're certainly not the only one....I screw up on a weekly basis, at least. But I've discovered many good friends among Newsvine's membership, and most of them are pretty tolerant of the foibles of others...

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    • 3 votes
    #11.1 - Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3558029,"authorDomain":"Ar0x4"}

    Hi 'Syn';  I found your, "Crypto-History, Instalment 1: Introduction," a resource I can return to time and again.  Just a note to state that my comment was just that.  It was not at all meant to criticize nor critique anyone else's opinion of my own comment.  [Perhaps I should have found a different area of Newsvine to publish the comment.]  I am just observing here my own respect for and enjoyment ofMr. Sitchin's research and authorship.  Upon rereading my piece I can understand how it might have seemed otherwise.  I hadn't any thought at all that you were (as you state), 'dissing Sitchin, 'Syn'; and do respect your's and everyone else's opinions about his writings, as well as Velikovsky's writings--even R.Buckminster Fuller's, as other examples of some of my great experiences in reading wonderful writers.  I was not attempting to write a strong statement, but obviously my own expectation of 'casual' commentary turned out differently then I thought.  We all have a few favorite authors and I admit Mr. Zecharia Sitchin is most definitely one of mine. 

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#12 - Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3574806,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Oh, no worries, PerS8....I don't think you put your comment in the wrong place at all, and it was utterly appropriate.

    I have been discussing offline with a colleague the direction that I've taken in this series, and the recommendation was that I need to "open up" and be more inclusive of some of the more provocative theories that impinge on this topic -- with Sitchin definitely being a top advocate of the more provocative camp. 

    I am striving to work through a hypothesis using very accepted primary sources and testable hypotheses, and I've not yet worked out how that approach will be put to work with Sitchin, although I hope I'm successful in doing so.

    I appreciate your being engaged on this, and please don't for a second think that I'm protesting against what you're saying regarding the whole Annunaki/Nibiru issue. I think it's an important chapter in the overall arc of this story, and will yet play a significant role.

    Thanks for coming back here, and please continue to comment. I value what you're saying.

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    #12.1 - Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:54 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":7774484,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}

    Hetep & REspect Synth, tnx for the 411, I'm late but I'm in

    Do U know what the CamelCaps RE in REspect might mean?

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    Reply#13 - Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:52 PM EDT
    {"commentId":7790680,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

    Well, some people spell the name of the Egyptian sun god that way...but if that's not it, then, nope!

    ; )

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    #13.1 - Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:57 PM EDT
    {"commentId":7865053,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}

    H&R Synth, you win the prize. yes in metu neter transliteration we see RE or RA, in Eastern cosmologics it is Qi or Chi. This sun or life force is a powerful force in the concept of REspect. So it is interesting how CamelCaps can sometimes be utilized to use English to speak African.

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    #13.2 - Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:47 PM EDT
    {"commentId":7866371,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}
    you win the prize

    Woo hoo! I'll take the kewpie doll.....!

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      #13.3 - Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:58 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":7791036,"authorDomain":"jsbach"}

      I hate to be so limited in my thinking but..who are you, Syn?

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      Reply#14 - Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT
      {"commentId":7791302,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

      How d'you mean?

      *puzzled*

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        #14.1 - Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:39 PM EDT
        {"commentId":7791414,"authorDomain":"jsbach"}

        I'll ask you another time. Don't want to be off-topic.

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          #14.2 - Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:46 PM EDT
          {"commentId":7791460,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

          Why not just use the contact button on my column?

          I've got no secrets.

          Or no more than most, anyway....

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            #14.3 - Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:49 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":8582564,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

            Many years ago, when I was still seeking for the right religion for me, one day I came up with the idea that it could well be that one day in the future, time travel into the past may be possible.

            Then, with the world already in a state of advanced deterioration, polluted, not worthy to live in, the best (best in the sense of the ethically most noble) people receive an option to travel back many thousand years in time and live a simple life in a pure world, in the world's most fertile and loveliest spots at the time of their settlement.

            If such thing would happen, those who go will live in paradise, all others will know that no further salvation awaits them in this world. You could call it rapture.

            If such thing would happen, indeed each of us can only expect that his life will serve for the people he loves to carry on ethical cleanness, his kids do the same because he showed them by example, until many generations in the future, your offspring and social environment is sufficiently noble and good to travel back into the past and hence become your most distant forefathers.

            While not on an individual level, on the colective level of human spirit, reincarnation would exist, as would exist the myth of first beings of superior power, venerated as example, guidance and in fact as Gods by their offspring.

            I found it remarkable, I still do, that with all the fundamental differences that there seem to be with all distinct religions, it basically only takes a right storyline and in essence those differences evaporate.

            Human civilisation as a closed loop.

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            Reply#15 - Sun Aug 2, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
            {"commentId":8583766,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

            Hmmm. Very contemplative this morning, indeed, Martin.

            I like it!

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            #15.1 - Sun Aug 2, 2009 12:09 PM EDT
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