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Hot Rods, Guy Movies and Hollywood Boulevard

Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:41 AM EST
entertainment, look-again, mcqueen, tarantino, hot-rods, top-ten-lists, bullitt, death-proof, car-chases, movie-cars
By Synthesis

The movie poster for the 1977 Italian release of 'The Car' (courtesy www.drivepast.com)

Stuntman Mike's Chevy Nova from Tarantino's 'Death Proof' (publicity still from MoviesOnline.ca)

Legendary Hollywood stunt driver Carey Loftin

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I recently rented the Tarantino/Rodriguez 'Grindhouse' drive-in double bill movie tribute Death Proof and Planet Terror, and without commenting on the worthiness of the subject matter, if the goal really was to make the ultimate B-movie drive-in double-bill, they succeeded. Their love for the genre is clear, as is their talent.

It was the first of the two, Tarantino's Death Proof, that left me the most conflicted. It seemed to be the product of a misogynist with a torture fetish who somehow still likes empowered women.

Equally clear, though, is the director's genuine love of muscle cars. Especially those that have become motion picture icons. This, Tarantino shares with the ultimate protagonists of Death Proof, car crazy stunt drivers Kim (Tracie Thoms) and Zoe (Zoe Bell).

He's hardly alone, of course. Guys and cars have a near-unnatural relationship that goes back as far as Rudolph Diesel, and the link to the movies goes back just as far, with the first-ever car chase taking place in The Runaway Match, released in 1903.

What is it with guys and cars? Even I, a certified bookworm with only slightly less mechanical aptitude than a rhesus monkey, can confess to utterly adoring the '97 Jeep Wrangler I was recently forced to give up (by my wife, at gunpoint -- but that's another story).

Certainly, women rarely 'get it' (at least outside of Tarantino movies), as exemplified by this 'He Said - She Said' column in the The Virginian-Pilot.

I've been driving 25 years and I still can't figure out men and cars. Sometimes I can't figure out the difference between the two.

Most women are satisfied with a car that starts when they turn the key. If it gets them to their destination without stalling, so much the better.

We do not want to drive something better looking than we are, or cleaner than our kitchens.

Not so with men.

For me, an essay by Tom Kiske sums up very neatly "every young boy's fascination with...automobiles [and] what it took to be cool; a cool car."

One way or another, the indefinable male obsession with automotive esoterica is real; and the existence of a genre of filmdom known as 'guy movies' is equally testable, now that it's finally been quantified by the good folks at Men's Journal:

At first there were no hard and fast restrictions; we just knew one when we saw one. But over time basic criteria emerged. Violence trumps sex, war beats peace, and you better have a very good reason to oppose anything with Steve McQueen in it.

We believe that a true guy movie is a movie only a guy can love. A crucial distinction. Pop one into the DVD player and your wife or girlfriend should run screaming from the room. We frown upon films that are too serious or sensitive. The Deer Hunter got KO'd despite lengthy elk hunting and torture scenes because Meryl Streep was in it. Sure, she's a great actress, but rules are rules: no films with Meryl Streep.

Guy films can be watched in groups, over and over, and you should be able to recite yards of dialogue from memory. Great lines stick in your mind forever, like old pop songs, and when you blurt one of them in public ("Say hello to my leetle friend!" "Don't ever take sides with anybody against the family again"), women and children should give you odd looks, while other guys -- total strangers -- glance over and nod with respect and understanding."

Naturally, then, in the opinion of this column, there should be some kind of award for the the all-time greatest movie hot rods. After all, if guys and cars is a 'thing', and if guy movies are a 'thing', well...it just stands to reason that the greatest car movies -- and the greatest movie cars -- deserve special recognition in the annals of entertainment.

Maybe a series of stars on Hollywood Boulevard. Not on the sidewalk, like pedestrian movie stars. Right out on the street. Where the rubber hits the road, as it were.

If there were such a thing? I would call the award 'The Loftin Award', after the legendary Hollywood stunt driver Carey Loftin. Because, let's face it, anyone who did stunt work on movies from 1950's Don Daredevil Rides Again (1950) to Spielberg's Duel to Vanishing Point to Bullitt, well...they clearly deserve more than just an entry in IMDB, the Internet Movie Database.

So, in reverse order, the following are my nominations for the first Loftin Award:

No. 10 - The 1977 Trans Am from the first Smokey and the Bandit

The 1977 Trans Am driven by Burt Reynolds in Smokey and the Bandit is probably not the most distinctive movie hot rod ever driven, but this second generation '50th Anniversary' special 'Bandit' Trans Am had to be included on this list for a few reasons:

It's impossible to separate movie cars and car chases...and this whole movie is one long car chase; it enabled Burt to deliver a load of beer to a dry county in less than 28 hours...and we're always in favour of bringing hope to those less fortunate; hey, it has it's own fan club for pete's sake; we hadda put Burt in here somewhere, and in White Lightining, he drove a '71 Ford LTD. That would never have done.

No. 9 -- The 1958 Plymouth Fury in Christine

Christine was a truly evil '58 Fury, with a carburetor so dark at her heart that she relished killing all who crossed her or her owner. Christine had to be included on this lust not only because she was so 'Fury-ous', but hey, who wouldn't want a car that could magically fix itself! Or one that could still take part in a car chase, even when on fire. In the movie as in real life, Christine sported a 350 cubic inch Golden Commando V8 with a dual four-barrel carb, and an exclusive speedometer that went to 150 mph.

No. 8 -- 'Eleanor', the 1973 Mustang Mach I from the original (1974) Gone in 60 Seconds

The '73 Mach 1 was a larger beast than the thoroughbred ponycars of the late 60s. In fact, some referred to it as 'The Clydesdale'. Even with the so-called 'NASA' hood scoops feeding a ram-air Boss 351 Cleveland, this heavyweight would have been unable to lost in the quarter-mile against the sweet '68 version with the 428 Cobra Jet. But still, this venerable fastback was still a major presence in the original version of Gone in 60 Seconds, with enough character to warrant it's own name -- Eleanor -- so it merits a place on this list at number 8.

No. 7 -- The '34 Ford from The California Kid

The
'34 Ford
driven by Martin Sheen's Michael McCord in this 1973 made-for-TV revenge thriller is so iconic that it features a cliched flame paint job. Except, this Ford Coupe is one of the orginal hot rods, so the flames aren't hackneyed at all -- they're fully archetypal. In the movie, the engine from the equally famous '32 Ford from American Graffitti does stand-in duty for the plain 302 that the '34 actually sported, so in some ways I feel like I'm ticking off two birds with one stone on this entry.

No. 6 -- The '69 Charger from Dirty Mary and Crazy Larry

One of Rotten Tomatoes' reviewers says about this film:

"nothing new to anyone who's caught five minutes of an episode of Dukes of Hazzard"

And, while I'd be hard-pressed to disagree, since this is one of the movies that set the standard for later pale imitations like Hazzard, I'm still going to give props to Mary and Larry. Besides, this is a movie that features pretty much the same ending as the hippie counterculture with which star Fonda was associated, so it's kind of a groovy metaphor for the passing of an era, man...

Finally, the '69 Charger is just a really boss car, inspiring everyone from the Dukes to Stuntman Mike to Dominic Torretto in The Fast and the Furious, and so it, too, had to be on the list somehow...

No. 5 -- The modified Lincoln Mark III in The Car

I vowed I would include no Chuck Barris creations in this list. No Batmobile, no Black Beauty. But the more I worked the list, the more I felt as though I couldn't leave 'The Car' from the movie The Car off it. My reasons are as much personal as anything, but the long, lean lines of The Car bespoke a Satanic menace even more fearful than that of Christine, and I always felt that this was a vehicle that far outclassed the movie in which it appeared. For that reason, I'm determined to give it a life beyond the relatively miserable James Brolin vehicle in which it met its untimely end...

No. 4 -- the '70 Dodge Challenger R/T from Vanishing Point

Like the Charger, this automotive work of art was mentioned in the movie that inspired this article, and so in some ways I thought about leaving it off. But its omission would have made the whole piece a farce, since there are very few movies that captured the romance of the car (or the alienation of the 70s, for that matter) better than Vanishing Point, I had to put it on the list, and in a fairly prominent spot, too. There are those who feel that V-Point has not held up, but I would argue that it holds up easily as well as other so-called counterculture classics from the era. And even conceding the 'dated' point, any film focusing on driving a 440 six pack-equipped '70 Challenger cross-country with a headfull of amphetamines needs to be included on the list.

No. 3 -- The '55 Chevy from Two-Lane Blacktop

I'm going to cheat just a little bit and let film-maker Richard Linklater give just a couple of the many reasons why Two-Lane Blacktop the highly existential 1971 road film starring James Taylor (known only as 'Driver'), Dennis Wilson ('Mechanic') and Warren Oates ('GTO').

Because it's the purest American road movie ever.

Because it's like a western. The guys are like old-time gunfighters, ready to out-draw the quickest gun in town. And they don't talk about old flames, but rather old cars they've had.

Because Warren Oates has a different cashmere sweater for every occasion. And of course the wet bar in the trunk.

I'm going to add that the movie vehicle's pedigree puts it over the top for me. Three '55 Chevys were built, and their entire lifespan has been tracked through a long and involved saga that saw them play roles not only in this film, but also in two other hot rod classics from this list, American Graffitti and Smokey and the Bandit, which also recorded the Chevy's 454 big block to use as a stand-in for the less muscular sound of the Bandit Trans Am.

No. 2 -- 'Mad Max' Rockatansky's 'Pursuit Special' 1973 Ford Falcon XB GT Coupe from Mad Max and The Road Warrior movies

"There she is, Max...the last of the V8 interceptors." So says The Mechanic when the Main Force Patrol Pursuit Special is unveiled to Max, as an enticement by Fifi Macaffee to keep him from quitting the force after his run-in with the Nightrider turns fatal for the psychotic gang-member.

"Any longer out on that road and I'm one of them, y'know? – a terminal crazy – only I have a bronze badge to say I'm one of the good guys."

(Max to Fifi about wanting to quit The Bronze).

Any vehicle awesome enough to serve as bait for Mad Max is sufficiently badass to earn a place on this list. And besides, it looked really really awesome with that muscular supercharger poking out of the hood. Props, too, to George Miller and customizer Murray Smith for managing to take a pretty vanilla musclecar and turn it into something that could survive the end of the world as we know it.

No. 1 -- The Bullitt '68 Mustang GT390

Simply put, the Mustang piloted by Steve McQueen in Bullitt is the most iconic movie car ever, and is featured in what many even today -- 40 years later -- think of as the best car chase ever filmed. McQueen was no fake driver, either. Arguably the coolest American actor of the 1960s (sorry Marlon!), McQueen participated in 20 major national and international racing events, including representing the U.S. at the International Six-Day Trials in 1964 and the Baja 1000 (1969). The car itself was a Highland Green 1968 Mustang GT390 right off a car lot. Mechanic Max Balchowsky added some undercarriage modifications and mag wheels, but left the engine stock. Balchowsky remembers for Muscle Car Review magazine:

"It ran good, needed just a few little adjustments. I changed the distributor and all, but basically never had the engine apart on the Ford."

Perhaps the most convincing evidence for how iconic the Bullitt Mustang became is the excitement that greeted the
unveiling
of the 2008 Bullitt Mustang tribute car produced by Ford Motor Co. Chad McQueen, the actor's son and a highly respected driver in his own right test-drove the new Ford Bullitt for
Motor Trend Magazine
, saying:

Ford has really done a good job here. It looks just right, and sounds bitchin'. Well damped. Pretty torquey, too. This car really feels like a modern 1968."

In time, there may be a car movie -- or a movie car -- that can eclipse Frank Bullitt's Mustang. In time.

But in Bullitt's own words, "time starts now".

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Synthesis

As with all lists, I'm prepared to take my lumps because someone feels that I've slighted their favourite Hollywood ride. So, what do you say, Newsvine? Have one you'd add to the list?

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:43 AM EST
ShaunV

Christine. I used to own her kinder gentler sister. ;) That car was alive, although, not obnoxious about it.

Regarding cars in general, as long as the engine starts and the car runs without a problem, I'm happy. :)

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:41 AM EST
Synthesis

Our family car when I was a kid was a much later Plymouth Fury III. Far from being evil like Christine, it was possibly the best car we ever owned, with a super-dependable 318 that just went on and on and on.

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:34 AM EST
Tedd Riggs

What ! Did you forget

Kitt ?

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:51 AM EST
Jim Dent

A techno toy for you kiddies... Hardly a Hot Rod.

  • 6 votes
#1.4 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:09 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

I agree, just wanted to see the reaction :-)

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:14 PM EST
Synthesis

Another George Barris kustom kar kreation, as well. I really thought more than once about even including The Car. But it was just too kool to leave of the list.

My main rule of thumb was 'real' cars not fantasy ones (although it's kind of a sliding scale, admittedly).

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:35 PM EST
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jfxgillis

Syn:

Nicely done.

But none of these cars make your list?

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:05 AM EST
Synthesis

Heh. Thanks, Jack.

The cars of MMMMW were, um, interesting, for the most part, but I didn't feel like any met the 'hot rod' portion of the entrance criteria enough...although I will cheerfully admit to being beaten like a rented mule every time I put one of these lists together. And maybe even to liking it (only a little...)

I keep swearing up and down that the next time I do one of these 'list' articles, it's going to be a Top 100 list....

  • 6 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:14 AM EST
spiffie

My favorite gratuitous car chase is the chase from Blues Brothers. Although I doubt anyone would claim the '74 Dodge Monaco Sedan was as desirable as any of these fine examples, the movie probably has the first example of a character mourning the loss of his car. :-)

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:18 AM EST
Synthesis

Spiffie, you're right about the car chase, and I've seen a couple of other people's list that do list the Monaco as a fave due to that movie...

At a minimum, the car held up its end of the bargain for the boys.

  • 6 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:25 AM EST
Jim Dent

I would mostly agree with your picks. Especially McQueen and the GT390. If memory serves, McQueen also rode his own bike in The Great Escape. Great Actor, great car.
About all I would add is John Milner's 32 Rod in American Graffiti. I always wanted one...

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:31 AM EST
Synthesis

Thanks, Jim. I flip-flopped a few times about the '32, and then finally left it off, on the somewhat weak justification that it looked a bit like the '34 in California Kid, and that the engine from Milner's '32 actually appeared in California Kid as a stand-in for the engine in that film. I know, it's a little weak, but I really did have a tough time narrowing them down on this one. (I'm glad I didn't succumb to the temptation -- halfway through, when the going was getting heavy -- to go with a Top Five list...)

As for McQueen, yes, he did some of the bike riding in Escape and some of the car work in Bullitt. But for the really hairy stuff (like the jump in Escape) they had folks like Loftin and his buddies do the grunt work. Even with a specially talented driver, stunt driver is a whole other level of magnitude...

  • 6 votes
#6.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:53 AM EST
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Mark The Muse

Syntheesis,

As I slowly read your list and comments, I kept wondering "where is it?" I kept thinking to myself, "I'll just add it.".....Then.......BINGO.......the mustang from Bullet. I am not sure about the rest of the list but you nailed the number 1 pick. Nice job.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:58 AM EST
Synthesis

Thanks, Mark. As I said, I expect before this article's comments peter out I'll take some heat, but I'm pretty comfortable with that no. 1 pick...

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:56 AM EST
gecko85

I had the same thoughts as I read the article. I kept saying to myself, "it must be at #1...if it's not, there'll be hell to pay!" Luckily, there it was in its rightful place. Iconic car, great movie, and definitive car chase scene to end all car chase scenes.

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:41 PM EST
Synthesis

I agree with all that you say...although I think that the car chase crown is open to at least some healthy debate after some of the great car chases that have been filmed since then (not least of which is the car chase that takes up the last half of Death Proof).

  • 3 votes
#7.3 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:20 PM EST
gecko85

True, but all car chase scenes filmed since have used Bullitt as their measuring stick. It set the precedent and the benchmark.

  • 3 votes
#7.4 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:23 PM EST
Synthesis

You won't find me arguing too much with you, Gecko...

  • 2 votes
#7.5 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:19 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Synthesis,

I forgot to mention. I did a double take on Loftin. At first I thought it was Carol Shellby. It must have been the hat.

  • 3 votes
#7.6 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:29 PM EST
Synthesis

Heh. I see what you mean. Nope. Far as I know, that is indeed Loftin....funny coincidence, though, eh...?

  • 2 votes
#7.7 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:47 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Synthesis,

Yes it is. Carol and Dan Gurney were "my boys". I was going to mention it in my first post but must have got a brain cramp.

Here's another pic:

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/12/09/299986.html

  • 2 votes
#7.8 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:56 PM EST
Synthesis

Now, Gurney I'm not familiar with. But I'm betting you don't mean this Dan Gurney. ; )

LOL.

  • 2 votes
#7.9 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:59 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Synthesis,

Nope sorry not that Dan G, This Dan Gurney:

http://www.motorsportshalloffame.com/halloffame/1990/Dan_Gurney_main.htm

  • 2 votes
#7.10 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:10 PM EST
Synthesis

Give him a fiddle, and maybe he could still knock out a tune, though...

  • 1 vote
#7.11 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:45 PM EST
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Tedd Riggs

If I get the funding this could be a hit :-)

Travels with Tedd

Checking to see if I can snag Angelina Jolie as co-driver,,"Gone in 60 seconds"

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:06 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Tedd,
Sorry, but a chevy under any nameplate is still, only a chevy.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:23 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

Furd piece of......

20 different tools to change a sparkplug, pull the engine to remove the back plugs...nah you can keep em...

  • 4 votes
#8.2 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:26 PM EST
Synthesis

Besides, Gone in 60 Seconds? Coupla femto-seconds is more like it. Sheesh!

  • 3 votes
#8.3 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:48 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

@Mark

"Tedd, Sorry, but a chevy under any nameplate is still, only a chevy."

Enjoy :-)

  • 3 votes
#8.4 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:10 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Tedd,

Thank-you. A beautiful Ford Pinto wagon. It brings back memories. I had a beautiful puke green Pinto hatchback, complete with the exploding gas tank option. Although I did get that part fixed.

  • 4 votes
#8.5 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:53 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

This one one of the few that was not the normal "Kawasaki Green versions.... I had a few friends dump 302's in Pintos, I dropped a (sorry..bad word..Chevy) 350 CI, 370 hp LT1 motor in a Vega after that stupid aluminum engine blew up

That little Vega could run. But whoa did I go thru some pressure plates, motor mounts, Mickey Thompson L-60 tires. However it looked almost 100% stock, unless you listened to that very un-even cam throbbing away. Also I got really tired of sneaking out to Dulles Airport (washington, DC) to buy that Av-gas. Those 12.5 pistons kinda liked the good stuff..

  • 3 votes
#8.6 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:06 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Tedd,

LMAO I had a mustard yellow Vega complete with the rusted out front fenders. It was a neat little car, until I had a disagreement with a fire hydrant.

  • 1 vote
#8.7 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:09 PM EST
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Pamela Drew

Hey Synthesis, I maybe a chic but grew up under a lift arguing about a Hemi or a Big Bloc V8 as the ultimate. I've got one you missed, maybe the chic flick of the genre. James Garner, often as Doris Day's partner, but with a Ford GT40 in Grand Prix, plus he did all his own driving, bonus point there and better than the car in Rockford Files, lol. I'm partial to motorcycles but great to see the oldies come out and get the memory cobwebs and adrenaline going.

http://www.vicelford.com/store/grand%20prix.jpg Eva Marie Saint too, hot rod body parts everywhere, eh??

  • 5 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:19 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

Crap heck with snagging Angelina Jolie, I'd rather snag Pamela, she has a brain :-)

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:22 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Pamela,

A Ford GT40, your a woman after my own heart. Dang, I forgot that movie. That car should be in the top 10.

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:22 PM EST
Synthesis

I can't argue. Who're we kicking out? Burt and that Trans Am?

I'm partial to motorcycles

There's a good Top Ten article there, too (maybe not movie bikes, but just classic bikes?). I'd start with the Ariel Ariel nameplate (any year or model would do...)

  • 3 votes
#9.3 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:49 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

Norton 850 Commando - One sweet bike. Or the old Triumph 650's

  • 5 votes
#9.4 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:07 PM EST
Pamela Drew

Sure, it works for me. Dump Burt and the TransAm, they never held a candle to the Fire Birds anyway. As for bikes, just a classic Harley chopper. Not that a Honda 750 bored out to 1000, mounted on an American frame with springer front end can't get all the style and beat the pants off a Harley flat out, but the purr of the Harley and the Hells Angels elan. Sure, it's not ambiance everyone goes for but tatoos and pool halls have their own charms, all vestiges of a happily, misspent youth. :~)

  • 5 votes
#9.5 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:15 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

I had a awesome 1970 Firebird Formula 400, hood mounted tach, factory solid lifter cam. oh that was nice ! Talk about a car with tons of torque !

My first "Big Bike" was a Honda 750 4 cyl. Good ole CB-750F (The F series had all four pipes into one) worked at the local Honda shop and got it new for cost, $1100 ! Never did have a Harley, think I had one of everything else in the world. Gosh Motocross almost killed me in High-school, My Kawasaki KH-400 H3 (Rare 3 cylinder 2 stroke, very fast in a straight line...) got me in lots of trouble...ah yes, those much more wild days.....

  • 3 votes
#9.6 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:43 PM EST
Wheel

I had a Suzuki 750, 3cylinder, a water buffalo. 5 Speed, could cruise all day at 70 miles per hour and 3000 rpm. Very comfortable bike to ride on the road and highway, made many long trips back in the day.

  • 4 votes
#9.7 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:48 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

Suzuki 750, 3cylinder,

Now that is one rare bike ! There are still two of them in Redmond and that crazy "StarTrek" command module that closes over the speedo and tach still works The old GS series were great bikes from Suzuki.

  • 2 votes
#9.8 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:13 PM EST
Synthesis

You should all consider joining the Newsvine Motorcycle Club...

  • 3 votes
#9.9 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:41 AM EST
Tedd Riggs

How do you join it ? There is no Watch or Join button ???

  • 4 votes
#9.10 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:05 AM EST
Synthesis

Hmmm...that's a good question, Tedd. I joined in response to an invite some months back...

  • 3 votes
#9.11 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:44 AM EST
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Shalla

I'm more of a TV nut than into movies so my fave Hollywood ride at the moment is the '67 Impala from Supernatural. Of course, now I'm going to have to watch the movies listed that I haven't seen for all the amazing cars. Great list :)

  • 5 votes
#10 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:35 PM EST
Synthesis

the '67 Impala from Supernatural

Very cool. When I was growing up, I remember one of the 'big kids' we all looked up to drove a '67 Impala convertible. I thought it was the most awesome car in town (altho there was also this really really fast '68 Camaro SS...)

  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:59 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

'68 Camaro SS...)

Those were sweet !

I had a 69 Chevelle SS 396. That was a fun car. Little tough on gas...

  • 5 votes
#10.2 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:03 PM EST
Synthesis

Little tough on gas...

Yeah, weren't they all! I started driving somewhere around 1978, and on the theory that the cheapest cars were typically around ten years old, my buddies and I all drove 68-72 vehicles: Chevelles, Mustangs, Barracudas, Chargers, Super B's, Dusters, Novas...

Yikes! It's amazing we survived to reach our twenties.

  • 3 votes
#10.3 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:20 PM EST
Wheel

In 1973 I bought a 9 month old 1972 Chevelle Malibu SS, pale green, off white vinyl top, custom captains seats, 302 2 bbl, (yeah I know, it was for the looks, a date car, not a race car). It only had 7600 miles when I bought it. It was 2 door, no self respecting single guy drove a 4 door back then. I loved the long sweep of opening those doors, a woman in a long dress gracing the front seat, swiveling around in the bucket seat and swinging her legs out. I was 21 years old. ahhh.....

A drunk driver hit me one night while I was driving my girlfriend home, totaled it out, we were banged up but basically ok. I've never really felt the same way about cars since then, now they're just transportation.

  • 4 votes
#10.4 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:27 PM EST
Pamela Drew

Little tough on gas...

Try a 4 barrel carburetor, you watch the tachometer needle go up as the gas gauge goes down.

  • 3 votes
#10.5 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:32 PM EST
Synthesis

A drunk driver hit me one night while I was driving my girlfriend home, totaled it out,

Ah, Wheel, that sucks. And not just 'cuz your car got wrecked, but goddam that drunk driver for stealing what was clearly an appreciation for fine Detroit iron....even if you did go for chick-magnets over performance... ; )

  • 3 votes
#10.6 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:36 PM EST
Synthesis

Try a 4 barrel carburetor,

Pamela, yup, been there and done that....I had a Dodge with a 383 Commando four-barrel once (and, yes, it was a station wagon!), so I know exactly what you mean...

  • 4 votes
#10.7 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:38 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

Hah...For great...Gas milage, try a six pack, three Holley two barrels on a rat motor. Ouch !

  • 5 votes
#10.8 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:15 PM EST
Synthesis

Yeah, that'll do it every time, Tedd...it's a good thing that gas was like 60 cents a gallon back in those days.

  • 2 votes
#10.9 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:42 AM EST
gecko85

it's a good thing that gas was like 60 cents a gallon back in those days.

But what does that 60-cents translate to in today's dollars?

Using the inflation calculator:

$0.60 in 1965 is $4.00 in 2007
$0.60 in 1967 is $3.78 in 2007
$0.60 in 1972 is $3.02 in 2007

So, those gas guzzlers hurt the pocketbook just as much back then, but at least you could enjoy them without feeling guilty or getting dirty looks. ;-)

  • 3 votes
#10.10 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:41 PM EST
Wheel

I was 14 when I started driving, that was 1966. I bought my first car for 50$, a 1954 Chevy Belair. Straight six engine, three on the tree, seats like a couch, maybe more comfortable that the crappy couch I have now. Gas was 29 cents a gallon and during gas wars I've bought gas for 19 cents a gallon.

  • 4 votes
#10.11 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:53 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

feeling guilty or getting dirty looks. ;-)

Or some yo-yo yelling at you; "Get a Hybrid" or "Go Green" or "Your messing up global warming"

  • 5 votes
#10.12 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:39 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Tedd,

I hate to be picky and play with semantics, but that is the way I am, so................

Your messing up global warming

A "green" car messes up global warming. A "guzzler" enhances global warming.

I know what you meant, but I couldn't resist. :-)

  • 4 votes
#10.13 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:43 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

I'll have to remember that logic Mark, thank you :-)

  • 5 votes
#10.14 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:59 PM EST
gecko85

Actually, many now believe hybrids have a larger overall footprint (negative affect on the environment) during the manufacturing process than a large SUV. From the mining of the nickel used to make the batteries, to the impact of shipping nickel overseas for processing, to the ultimate toxicity of the disposed batteries...some estimates put the added impact of producing a hybrid (over the impact of producing a traditional SUV) is significantly higher and you could drive a large SUV for over a year before the difference is made up. Of course, as with anything "environmental", your mileage may vary and opinions are like a-holes...everyone has one.

  • 5 votes
#10.15 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:05 PM EST
Mark The Muse

gecko85,

I believe that with most "emotional" issues:

"There are two sides to every story, and somewhere in the middle lay the truth."

Of course, as with anything "environmental", your mileage may vary and opinions are like a-holes...everyone has one.

So what you say rings true for me.

  • 4 votes
#10.16 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:18 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

Thats what pissed me off during the 70's with "pollution control" on cars. Yeah great, wonderful bill you passed Senator Muskie ! they did have less emissions per mile, true. However the darn cars also used twice the amount of gas as before so the overall emissions per gallon come up even. Plus all the diesel fumes to haul the fuel, waiting in line to get the stuff.....

  • 5 votes
#10.17 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:29 PM EST
Synthesis

The biggest bitch I have with hybrids is that they're not even that goddamn fuel-efficient. My wife and I are driving a Ford Focus right now, which gets almost as good gas mileage.

  • 3 votes
#10.18 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:59 PM EST
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Wheel

You did okay. Since you put McQueen on the top of the list I'll accept the rest. :)

  • 4 votes
Reply#11 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:39 PM EST
Synthesis

Hey, coming from a guy named Wheel, I'm going to take that as a win and walk away in relief!

  • 2 votes
#11.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:00 PM EST
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MinnieApolis

Any list that does not have at least an honorable mention for the Goldfinger car is SUSPECT.
I do give ya points for the Bullitt car and Christine and all.

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:44 PM EST
Mark The Muse

Minnie,

It's not my list, but "imports" should be on another list.

  • 2 votes
#12.1 - Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:57 PM EST
Synthesis

Mark's right, Minnie...I wouldn't call the Aston Martin a 'hot rod'. (I really like it, though, and I remember having a Dinky toy version of it as a kid that came complete with bulletproof shield...)

  • 2 votes
#12.2 - Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:46 AM EST
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Mustang Girl

Pamela Drew,until I saw your comment I thought I would be the only chic who loves my big block cars,and actually read this article.Imagine learning to drive nowaday on a 428CJ sans power steering.That's what I get for growing up while having two uncles and a father who owned a garage.
Anyway,good article,and the Bullitt car will always be #1.I believe there were actually 2 68 mustangs used for the movie.Both supposedly went to the crusher when the movie was completed,but it was never proven 100%. I would also have liked to see John Milner's coupe make the top 10! Otherwise,nice article Ted Riggs..

  • 2 votes
Reply#13 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:39 PM EST
Synthesis

nice article Ted Riggs..

Ouch!

Tedd, get right on putting that coupe in there, wouldja?

Mustang Girl, I could have easily switched out Milner's '32 coupe with the '34 coupe from the California Kid. Consider it done, if that's your preference...

Me? I'm just tickled to have had two (count 'em, two!) women chime in on this thread. Woo hoo!

  • 4 votes
#13.1 - Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:13 PM EST
Pamela Drew

Pamela Drew,until I saw your comment I thought I would be the only chic who loves my big block cars,and actually read this article.Imagine learning to drive nowaday on a 428CJ sans power steering.

I'm a NYC girl now and go by subway but never will loose my love of the Hot Rods or the times in them.

  • 2 votes
#13.2 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:17 AM EST
Wheel

'm a NYC girl now and go by subway but never will loose my love of the Hot Rods or the times in them.

Pam, sounds like you should be writing a story, not just me. Do tell us about 'times in Hot Rods'. Inquiring minds want to know. :) Be sure to label the content as 'fiction' though.

  • 2 votes
#13.3 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:45 AM EST
Tedd Riggs

Otherwise,nice article Ted Riggs..

Thanks If was fun :-)

  • 3 votes
#13.4 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:48 AM EST
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oldfogey

Simply beautiful.

  • 3 votes
Reply#14 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:53 AM EST
Mustang Girl

Didn't mean to give you an Ouch Synthesis,I'm sorry for that. Note to self - Read more carefully,then credit the correct person with the article-
I've never seen the California Kid.
Pamela Drew,get thyself out to the Mamaroneck car show that's held once a year.Those people put on quite a show,from the oldies to the rods,right on to the muscle cars.It's a good stroll back to the past.If you no longer drive them,they're excellent eye candy. (And for our feminine side,there's a huge flea market :)

  • 2 votes
Reply#15 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:55 AM EST
Pamela Drew

(And for our feminine side,there's a huge flea market :)

A woman after my own heart, I might just do that.

  • 2 votes
#15.1 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:41 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

there's a huge flea market

Pamela,
I am sure your friendly Monsanto dealer could give you a discount on some flea powder (perhaps laced with some leftover DDT ?) if you need any :-)

  • 2 votes
#15.2 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:12 PM EST
Synthesis

Didn't mean to give you an Ouch Synthesis,I'm sorry for that.

No hurt feelings, MG...my post was (mostly) in jest. Besides, Tedd could have just as easily written this! (and like I said earlier, I'm just glad to have women commenting on this piece!).

  • 3 votes
#15.3 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 4:33 AM EST
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M. Lampson

Your list of top 10 movie cars, was pretty inpressive. I liked each and every car u mentioned. Especially "Christine". I used to have a '60 Dodge Matador. Very solid car sporting a Hemi engine. Always will continue being a huge fan of the wings they had in the back. The Mustang in Bullet was an awesome car too. NOTHING to this day will ever ever beat good ole fashion Detroit iron!!!!!!!!

  • 2 votes
Reply#16 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:38 PM EST
Pamela Drew

NOTHING to this day will ever ever beat good ole fashion Detroit iron!!!!!!!!

Amen, nothing beats the culture and craft built to burn oil. No criticism intended just a nostalgic fancy.

  • 2 votes
#16.1 - Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:43 PM EST
Synthesis

Those Hemis were pretty awesome M. Overall, the list of Mopar Supercars that ruled the road in the late sixties and early seventies were pretty incredible. I'm with Pamela in having a couple of pangs of nostalgia for those days, though, when we still had our innocence about gas guzzlers. I mean, jeez. I drive a Ford Focus these days : (

  • 3 votes
#16.2 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 4:36 AM EST
Pamela Drew

I ride the subway Synthesis, anything with a steering wheel of your own and you're still stylin'.

  • 2 votes
#16.3 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:27 PM EST
Synthesis

Heh...that's not quite what I call it, Pamela...but I take your point.

Back in my Toronto days, I was quite content to be a strap-hanger, too...

    #16.4 - Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:14 PM EST
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    Mustang Girl

    Gotta let your hair down Synthesis. You can have your Focus and then you can have a toy,or 3 besides that Focus.
    I drive a minivan the whole winter,then bring out the special cars for those perfect summer days.116 octane is still alive and well.My pangs of nostalgia have never quite left me.
    I don't feel like I'm doing as much damage to global warming as someone who drives a big a** SUV year round.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#17 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 6:29 PM EST
    Wheel

    Gotta let your hair down Synthesis.

    You've seen his picture, right? :)

    • 2 votes
    Reply#18 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 6:38 PM EST
    Synthesis

    Hey, god only made so many perfect heads...

      #18.1 - Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:16 PM EST
      Wheel

      Hey, god only made so many perfect heads...

      Isn't that the truth! So many of these guys who shave their heads would be better served getting a hat! Go anywhere and you'll see shaved skulls that are scarred, pointy, lumpy, oddly shaped, non-symetrical, simian, shaped like a loaf of bread! Every time I see some shaved head perched atop a large roll of neck fat, I'm reminded of the 'after' effect...look at some guy with a neck fat roll and a shaved head from the back and you'll see what I mean.

      • 1 vote
      #18.2 - Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:36 PM EST
      Synthesis

      Hehehe. Love the neck roll. Hehehe.

      Something you wrote just reminded me of this great scene from the film The Wanderers.

      Hehehe.

        #18.3 - Thu Jan 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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        Mustang Girl

        You're mean Wheel. If I told you to lighten up,would you take it literally and join Weight Watchers?? ;)~

        • 3 votes
        Reply#19 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 8:03 PM EST
        Wheel

        Probably wouldn't do me any harm...probably won't happen though. :)

        • 2 votes
        #19.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 8:10 PM EST
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