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Drone, Copter Team Kills 2,400 Bombers in Iraq
News Type: Event — Seeded on Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:00 PM EST
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In Iraq, a hundred-man Army unit is using an array of drones, manned surveillance planes, helicopters, and video downlinks to kill 2,400 bomb-planters and capture 141 more.
The 14-month-old, once-classified Army outfit is called Task Force ODIN, for "observe-detect-identify-neutralize." It was first disclosed in May. But now, additional details about ODIN are emerging. And the Task Force's "success has led Army officials to expand it and to bring its tactics to Afghanistan," Kris Osborn reports
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OK, we've got a UAV overhead. It sees guys planting an IED, now what do you do? OK, well you have to be able to command and control: maybe attack helicopters, maybe ground forces, maybe armed UAVs, maybe F-16s. How do you tie all that together? ...We're really doing it here, in real detail. Three to five times a day that scenario is playing itself out, that one scenario right there.
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#1 - Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:02 PM EST{"commentId":1387933,"authorDomain":"tj"}
I think the US Task force ODIN was initially classified to protect the more than 75 teenagers secretly recruited from PlayStation tournaments in Las Vegas to remotely operate UAVs for the US military.
"The 14-month-old, once-classified Army outfit" has been declassified now that most of the ODIN strike force has turned 18.
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- 4 votes
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Hehehe. Truth is, I expect you're not all that far off. At least, not by more than two or three years.
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{"commentId":1387983,"authorDomain":"blai"}
While other outfits got the big sexy fighter aircraft, Boeing got the UCAV market. Now they're putting UCAVs of all sizes and capabilities in the air.
UAV is as primitive as the earliest fighter in WW1. UCAVs are the wave of the future. Some will operate high overhead, operating on solar power, capable of staying aloft indefinitely, mostly serving as uplink points and low-level satellites. Others will be sent out like huge Nazgûl to terrorize and bomb. Some will be tiny, merely giving a squad of infantrymen a look over the next ridge. Some will look more like tiny helicopters, capable of operating in city streets.
One thing's for certain, it's the new face of warfare. They're only limited by how high they can fly.
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- 3 votes
#2 - Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:39 AM EST{"commentId":1388008,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}
Some will be tiny
Brother, this is as true as it gets. At one point the sci fi scenario for the Army's Future Combat System was having a vehicle launch a cloud of fist-sized drones over the battlefield to provide hundreds of different points of video data. That particular 'look forward' is already being overtaken, though, by the most recent vision which is tiny UAVs no bigger than your little finger, and containing no moving parts. The possibilities with technology like that are almost endless...
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#3 - Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:48 AM EST{"commentId":1388064,"authorDomain":"blai"}
Three types of UCAV/UAV will develop, and soon. First, truly autonomous UCAVs are a pipe dream, they're simply a cruise missile on steroids, the UCAV will require a human operator for the foreseeable future.
A manned aircraft's main limitation is GLOC: beyond a certain amount of G loading, a pilot will pass out. A UCAV's main limitation is bandwidth: if the operator loses contact with the UCAV, the pilot might as well have passed out or died. The UCAV might have the sense to turn around and go home, but that's a big maybe. Therefore, a UCAV will need the equivalent of an AWACS or JSTARS aircraft, to provide its commo.
The second form of UCAV will be a simple hunter-killer. Deployed in great numbers, they will become our version of the Shahid suicide bomber. Cheap, highly effective and coming completely out of the blue, they'll be the follow-on to the JDAM. Get them in the air at a price point around 5 grand, we can then go anywhere. JDAM is just a sorta-smart bomb.
The third kind of UCAV will be a sniper. It flies in, crawls on the ground, and can whack pretty much anything it can see. Two can play this low-intensity war game. Our boys will be in trailers, with joysticks, and this sniper is endlessly patient. He wakes up his controller when he spots anything in the infrared. Think teeny little version of a Mars rover, with a high velocity recoilless rifle.
Moore's Law works to our advantage. Let these jihadis get bold and brave, out in the weeds. When we can get these things manufactured at the price point of a high-end laptop, well... let them try and hide.
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